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Post by RedFlag32 on Nov 11, 2007 14:07:14 GMT
I wonder does any Republican socialist,not just members of the RSM have any idea as to how we are to get involved in the protestant community? How do we break that barrier,and which organisations or community groups could be approached? Maybe the drugs issue would be a start?
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Post by Stallit 2 de Halfo on Nov 11, 2007 22:49:26 GMT
Wouldnt the drug issue be a little contentious seeing various republican groups are involved, or supposedly involved in the business?
Its a good and difficult question RedFlag. What exactly do you mean by barrier?
I wouldnt be familiar with many protestant community organizations myself...
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Post by dangeresque on Nov 12, 2007 7:30:31 GMT
Wouldnt the drug issue be a little contentious seeing various republican groups are involved, or supposedly involved in the business? I don't think that republicans are involved in the drugs trade, they're usually up for smashing it. I've heard rumours that some republican armies have extorted money from criminals, but again that was just a rumour and doesn't show direct involvement in the trade itself. Its a good and difficult question RedFlag. What exactly do you mean by barrier? Probably he means loyalists and some nationalists dividing the workers along sectarian lines whenever they do come together. Add to that the limited contacts between the nationalist and unionist community. There was some recent unity across the divide around commemorating the Belfast dockers strike, that was encouraging to see. I wouldnt be familiar with many protestant community organizations myself... We should start by sending someone round to the Quakers to compliment them on their oats... |
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Post by RedFlag32 on Nov 12, 2007 16:33:39 GMT
Wouldnt the drug issue be a little contentious seeing various republican groups are involved, or supposedly involved in the business? I think even if that was the case it would be a great way of ridding the republican movement of scum, however it is my belief that republicans in the 6 counties are very anti-drugs,you might have probs coming up agains UDA figures however and this wouldnt be a bad thing,it would unite concerned republicans and concerned people from nationalist areas with those in the protestant community against a section of loyalism. Even if it was only the scummy lowest section of loyalism,atleast its a start. The sectarianism comrade,it creates barriers in the workplace and in the streets that are hard to cross. I am not from the 6 counties but i believe it is time to start approaching progressive elements from within the protestant community to begin the process of working class unity. I posed this question to see if anyone knew of where to search for those progressive elements we need. Ah well your no bloody help are you.... ;D ;D |
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Post by Papa C. on Nov 13, 2007 10:27:53 GMT
I think Revolutionary Unionism (workers unions) would be the best way to build ties with loyalist and Nationalist workers alike. The postal strike in Britain, action against water charges, the Dockers strike commemorations etcetera. People, regardless of allegiance will judge you by your actions or perceived actions. If people believe you are trying to help them (weather you agree with their affiliations/ political outlook or not) they will remember you for it as someone who tried to help them and may even support you for it. With the likes of FF constantly turning over on their election promises, people are almost used to politicians or activists being deceitful to them. If someone was to promise lower taxes (abolishing water charges, stamp duty, lower tax on alcohol (well deserved nights out. I know it's VAT), road tolls, vehicle insurance, vehicle tax, VAT, tax on petrol, TV licence, bin tax, ESB, Gas, Oil, Groceries order type cartels and so forth) they probably wouldn't even care if the economy went to pot because, even though the country is less well off, the money working people are earning is for once staying in their wallet or pockets or purses. The only problem you have then is, perhaps, loss of some jobs (even though that's still happening now) but if you were to back up jobs with nationalised jobs I don't think the working class would give a toss! Did I go off topic there?  Nationalise the banks! €2bn a year for private interests? F*** that! |
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