Post by mcglincheyite on May 22, 2008 20:50:30 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYZmvurW4Aw
sorry i put this in music by mistake and can't undo so there's some music from a comrade
Although he argued frequently against individual bishops and priests, Connolly did not see the Catholic church for what it had become: a defender of capitalism. Although a materialist, he believed religion belonged to the realm of the unknowable or was a product of our ignorance of nature. This, together with his belief that the Catholic church would not oppose a socialist movement that looked like winning, led him to argue that socialists should ignore the question of religion altogether. His Irish Socialist Republican Party (ISRP) “prohibits the discussion of theological or anti-theological questions at meetings, public or private”. [41] He forbade discussion within the party of all questions relating not only to religion, but also to sexual relationships. Connolly’s total exclusion of these questions “sprang from the same theoretical source: namely that working class consciousness would passively reflect economic conditions and move spontaneously to socialism”. [42] The limitations of Connolly’s Marxism – his syndicalism – influenced the Irish left generally, severely undermining the ability of Irish workers to defend their own interests. The result was that socialists made more and more concessions to Catholicism. During the election of 1900 Connolly proposed that all ISRP members should attend mass!
www.marxists.de/gender/horgan/women-irl.htm
lifted this from goretti horgan, don't know her - could this be our original fatal flaw?I've tested a priest in the Ardoyne with a phony confession- early 90's by the time i got back to Twinbrook a few hours later my 'confession' was hot gossip.I've heard a Catholic sibling of comrades state they'd tout up their own family(person was out of it on prescription drugs due car crash at the time)
i suggest: quit drinking, quit fags and lie to Catholics
sorry i put this in music by mistake and can't undo so there's some music from a comrade
Although he argued frequently against individual bishops and priests, Connolly did not see the Catholic church for what it had become: a defender of capitalism. Although a materialist, he believed religion belonged to the realm of the unknowable or was a product of our ignorance of nature. This, together with his belief that the Catholic church would not oppose a socialist movement that looked like winning, led him to argue that socialists should ignore the question of religion altogether. His Irish Socialist Republican Party (ISRP) “prohibits the discussion of theological or anti-theological questions at meetings, public or private”. [41] He forbade discussion within the party of all questions relating not only to religion, but also to sexual relationships. Connolly’s total exclusion of these questions “sprang from the same theoretical source: namely that working class consciousness would passively reflect economic conditions and move spontaneously to socialism”. [42] The limitations of Connolly’s Marxism – his syndicalism – influenced the Irish left generally, severely undermining the ability of Irish workers to defend their own interests. The result was that socialists made more and more concessions to Catholicism. During the election of 1900 Connolly proposed that all ISRP members should attend mass!
www.marxists.de/gender/horgan/women-irl.htm
lifted this from goretti horgan, don't know her - could this be our original fatal flaw?I've tested a priest in the Ardoyne with a phony confession- early 90's by the time i got back to Twinbrook a few hours later my 'confession' was hot gossip.I've heard a Catholic sibling of comrades state they'd tout up their own family(person was out of it on prescription drugs due car crash at the time)
i suggest: quit drinking, quit fags and lie to Catholics
