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Post by Papa C. on Dec 6, 2007 15:57:11 GMT
Just want to let everyone know that the Starry Plough Initiative have opened a shop known as The Plough Store in aid of the cause of educating the working class about the Workers' Republic. We need a whole load of things to do that and we have opened the shop as a mean of fund-raising. You can get Frank Ryan t-shirts, SPI merch, Seamus Costello shirts, Connolly and much more. The SPI gets $1 or €0.68c for every item sold. Our cheapest item is our Frank Ryan t-shirt which is only $9.99(US), £4.92(GB) or €6.81(Euro) Log on to the shop at www.cafepress.com/theploughstore/ |
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Post by RedFlag32 on Dec 6, 2007 19:22:11 GMT
Rock on!!!
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Post by voxpopuli on Dec 9, 2007 9:37:49 GMT
Educating the working class through tshirts and cups?
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Post by RedFlag32 on Dec 9, 2007 10:56:49 GMT
Educating the working class through tshirts and cups? No, trying to raise funds through tshirts and cups. |
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Post by Papa C. on Dec 9, 2007 19:33:21 GMT
Educating the working class through tshirts and cups? Educating the working class through music? through articles? through fliers? through posters? Personally I think t-shirts are a good way of promoting the cause. People see a t-shirt and start to think and perhaps search the internet... We are advertising the RS cause as well as our organisation whilst generating valuable revenue in order to build u a small kitty for tools and equipment needed to build such as a dedicated web address and server space, getting fliers and posters printed, etcetera. We only get 68cents for every item sold, despite the relatively high prices. We are a small organisation comrade and, in all fairness, we can't build a movement, educational or otherwise, without any funding. As a good man once said to me - 'The working class need to eat, when we stamp out poverty and lack of need, then we can build a revolution. We can't build a revolution with no tools or food.' With all due respect comrade, the RSM do the same thing as a means of fund-raising. What's the difference? |
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Post by voxpopuli on Dec 10, 2007 7:30:55 GMT
Comrades, my post was tounge in cheek. I've ordered a few Frank Ryan tshirts for myself and a few comrades. I wouldn't mind seeing the women's Connolly tshirt in mens sizes though!  What is the necessity for the SPI when we already have a Republican Socialist Movement and eirigi? Surely I would imagine either organisation could cater to the requirements of the SPI. |
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Post by Papa C. on Dec 10, 2007 9:17:52 GMT
Comrades, my post was tounge in cheek. I knew that  ;D What is the necessity for the SPI when we already have a Republican Socialist Movement and eirigi? Surely I would imagine either organisation could cater to the requirements of the SPI. Some might also say that either organisation could cater for each other but I'm sure we know why they're both there. Also, I don't think said organisations have the time to put into full time education (although the RSYM are doing a great job I must say) as they are so busy trying to build and stay active. They are fighting a constant propaganda war with the elite and this can be incredibly time consuming. Granted, we have limited time ourselves but we are looking to the future. We are constantly trying to build. Whilst the RSM and éirígí are active on working class issues, for the most part, the SPI are simply providing information to potential activists, educating and developing ideas. We want to build communication channels and hubs. We are active, primarily, online. I would think that more people would use the internet these days than watch the Telly (or go home, use the internet, then watch the telly. People use the internet at work, at school and even in public.) and that is why I think it is very important to build an online movement. The internet is the single most important communications channel the working class have. |
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Post by Papa C. on Dec 10, 2007 9:40:05 GMT
VP, I don't want to keep on at this but I'd just like to clarify to anyone who may be reading. Our organisation is independent and it is about sharing information with the world. Posting articles, posting bulletins, sending out information, creating music and poetry, creating videos, designing images and propaganda. This is our only function at the moment. We are not a political party but an RS organisation dedicated to supporting the working class cause.
I think our appeal is that we are a passive organisation, sharing information about injustice committed against the working class by their Governments and Government agents, trying to wake up the working people.
We are not going to lie about our support for armed struggle as a tool of the revolution. Our belief is that armed struggle is completely justified against imperialism as long as the occupation remains and it is the British Occupation of our economy and judiciary that justifies it. The same could be said for the Irish Government occupation of the Irish working class economy in the 26. We don't see any major difference. They are both Governments and both occupational forces.
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Post by Papa C. on Dec 10, 2007 15:38:28 GMT
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Post by RedFlag32 on Dec 10, 2007 16:37:57 GMT
I think we have to undertand the SPI as another form of media propaganda. I dont think if there was a revolutionary radio station espousing republican socialism that there would be the same argument levelled at it. How could you ask a propaganda media outlet (radio station)why it thinks a political party doesnt cater for its requirements? We have to think of the SPI along these lines.
I personally think that even Eirigi should have just aligned with the RSM,and if the SPI was to go down the same route as Eirigi then id be the one promoting the idea of aligning with the RSM id say. But we dont even have aspirations of going down the same path as Eirigi or the RSM,i believe we are tackling the main media outlet of the 21st century with republican socialist propaganda,the internet is a very important tool for the struggle i believe and this is where the SPI starts and finishes.
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Post by Papa C. on Dec 10, 2007 19:32:17 GMT
Good analysis RF32. I agree.
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Post by dangeresque on Dec 12, 2007 9:43:34 GMT
well said.
'arm the homeless' is class.
I had to deal with a really obnoxious fucker the other day, complaining about nothing and I said, it could be worse, you coudl be cold. heartless middle class scum.
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