Four-year sentence for man found with Kalashnikov

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Jun 5, 2008 18:32:22 GMT Stallit 2 de Halfo said:

I think all organisations run that risk, a lot of police forces have criminal elemants, including our Gardai, sure a sergeant robbed my watch one time, after i came out of the cell, he swore blind that i did'nt have one, and of course, armies do aswell i served as a volunteer in the reserves here for a few years and all sorts went on, i won't go into detail.

Thats exactly it. Even if elements of the INLA were involved in 'criminality', it does not discredit the organisation as a whole - no more so than if it were a garda or army officer discrediting the entire Gardai or Military.

I think the risk for a secret army are obviously going to be greater given the autonomous structure, lack of discipline, lack of a centralised authority, lack of communication and the flow of information.

The Ta Power document makes alot of sense - but I wonder whether it has been implemented properly....

(1) POLITICS IN COMMAND
(2) INTERNAL DEMOCRACY
(3) ABSOLUTE LEGITIMACY
(4) COLLECTIVE LEADERSHIP
(5) CENTRAL AUTHORITY
(6) COHERACY
(7) ACCOUNTABILITY
(8) DISCIPLINE
(9) EFFICIENCY
(10) EFFECTIVENESS

think some of this money that the millitary wing bring in should go towards the likes of the no campaign, or future political events, even a few colourful posters, i'm sure the public would not mind if the money was taken from the likes of the dealers for purposes to improve democracy,

And thats entirely the point. Where is the money? - the posters are, well, printer paper B&W. So I mean...

And this isnt the place for me to be complaining, im not even in the movement, but its difficult for me to get my head around it.

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We have only expressed oppinion, i am not in am not in a position to be criticising either. the Ta Power document is interesting, i have never seen it before, i think i should educate myself more by looking through the various articles and posts, before passing comments, but open debate and discussion is more interesting.

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The Ta Power document is here:

www.irsm.org/history/tapowerdoc.html

there's abit of history at the beginning. Whats good about it is how all the factors interelate:

So the present position of the movement reads like this: We are not EFFECTIVE why? Because we are not EFFICIENT why? Because there is not enough DISCIPLINE, why? Because there is a problem with COHERENCY, why? Because there is a problem with CENTRAL AUTHORITY, why? Because there's a problem with COLLECTIVE LEADERSHIP. Why? Because there's a problem with LEGITIMACY, why? Because there's a problem with INTERNAL DEMOCRACY, why? Because POLITICS ARE NOT IN COMMAND."""

Quite clever.

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That document is brilliant, i looked over it, but must go back on it a few more times, Irish history has to be the most complicated ever, I love reading from others about how great Costello was politically and millitarily, i had the pleasure of meeting him as a young boy and went to his funeral, he has inspired me ever since,
This Ta Power document is a great insight into the hard task that was involved in getting to where, things stand at the moment, thanks for posting it and i am going to go through it a lot.

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Could we start a thread on this document? or is there already one, on it? would also like to learn how, you were able to quote, a section from it while it was on another link, thats if you don't mind, this computer stuff can be difficult when you haven't the no how

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I know the herald is a rag, most of the times, but it has reports of another rifle caught, and an smg, the guards must have some great rats, and a huge armoury at this stage

[Stallit 2 de Halfo]

Could we start a thread on this document? or is there already one, on it? would also like to learn how, you were able to quote, a section from it while it was on another link, thats if you don't mind, this computer stuff can be difficult when you haven't the no how

You have to highlight and copy the text from somewhere else and paste into you message, and then press the quote button and it should work.

Ill start a thread in open discussion on it.

I know the herald is a rag, most of the times, but it has reports of another rifle caught, and an smg, the guards must have some great rats, and a huge armoury at this stage

What in the recent raids (100?) on drug dealers?

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Jun 6, 2008 22:05:39 GMT Stallit 2 de Halfo said:

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I probably have the early edition, according to page 21 they got another AK47 and the bloke got 3 years, it does not say about any particular group who he stored it for.

and according to page 4 they got an automatic machine gun, (never heard of one that was'nt auto) it states that it was captured from the I.N.L.A,