ANOTHER C.H.U.D. poll...

[dangeresque]

redflag32 said:

Lumpens are victims of capitalist society,just as the Petit-bourgeoisie are. That doesn't get away from the reality that this class of people exsist and we must realise there relation to the class struggle,victims or not.

I dont personally put homeless people or people on the dole in this category,i may be wrong here but thats my own opinion.

No, people on the dole have never been considered lumpens. They are the 'reserve army of the unemployed' to quote The Manifesto, and are solidly proletarian.

[Stallit 2 de Halfo]

On the subject of the love ulster protest,it was organised by RSF andthats who they attract,lumpens wit no political direction.

Do you have anything to say, or proof that it was organized?

[dangeresque]

barry said:

On the subject of the love ulster protest,it was organised by RSF andthats who they attract,lumpens wit no political direction.

Do you have anything to say, or proof that it was organized?

He said they organised the protest but attracted lumpens, not that they started the rioting.

[RedFlag32]

barry said:

On the subject of the love ulster protest,it was organised by RSF andthats who they attract,lumpens wit no political direction.

Do you have anything to say, or proof that it was organized?

Comrade, RSF openly declared that they were organising the protest. This organisation attracts lumpens in my own personal view and from experiance and if you want my honest opinion it wasnt a surprise that their surporters started randomly attacking people and mugging them or burning cars for the sake of it.

[Papa C.]

redflag32 said:

barry said:

Do you have anything to say, or proof that it was organized?

Comrade, RSF openly declared that they were organising the protest. This organisation attracts lumpens in my own personal view and from experiance and if you want my honest opinion it wasnt a surprise that their surporters started randomly attacking people and mugging them or burning cars for the sake of it.

RSF did call for the protest but I don't think that much organisation went into it. In fairness, a lot of people came out of the local bars, didn't know what was going on and just joined in when they heard loyalists were marching down the street.

They were chanting 'I-I-I-R-A', I'd be surprised if they knew who RSF even were. Of course everyone knows who SF are, given their air time on mainstream media. I've been to some of the bars around that area and they're filled with some of the worst knuckle draggers in the western world - no word of a lie.